A Talk of Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi Pune, 17th March, 2003 on Shri Shiv Puja.
Tonight, we have gathered here to do Shri Shiva Puja. Those people who have a clean heart can only do Shiva Puja. Those…whose heart is not clean ,cannot do Shiva Puja. It’s a simple principal of Shri Shivaratri . As you had seen yesterday.. we have snakes or these are horrible snakes guarding behind the Shivalinga. The significance is this….that those who are clean in their hearts , who are full of love for others are always guarded by the power of Shiva which are the snakes. It’s a symbolic thing to say. Very symbolic. But I must say that animals understand divine force much better than human beings….much better. Because they have a clean heart. Whatever is their lifestyle built by nature, they carry on with it, but there is no malice , there is no jealousy.. there is no all these mean things in their heart. They do it because it is supposed to be. But the quality of human beings is only one and that is….how much they love and forgive. Loving capacity of human beings are such …. by which they conquer all their negative forces. They can easily see that it is not good to have all these qualities or may be that they understand that it’s not noble to indulge into all these few inhuman behavior. They are not bound to indulge into all these things. Neighther they are asked to be. But suddenly they get lured by such things….. which has got hatred….jealousy…. and greed. You see how Shiva lives. He lives in the Himalayas. See what clothes he wears….( could not write one sentence because of error in C.D). And if you are worshipping him , you should find in your heart…what sort of feelings you have. What sort of malice you nurture. These days in India the greed has become the main point. They are so mean and so low…which is impossible to understand that they think money is everything, which is not in the culture of Indians…No…no..in no way. But somehow they have picked it up in the foreign countries perhaps and it is spreading very much now that money is the most important thing. Think of Shiva ….He never thought of money. He never wanted any money. He never wanted to show off himself. There is such a big difference between Shiva and Shakti. In their whole attitude. Because Shiva is absolutely a liberated personality. He is not bothered. If the people are indulging into wrong things….He will destroy….finished. He doesn’t want to cure, He doesn’t want to improve….nothing. But for the Shakti it is important because its Her child….this Universe is her child. All this is created by Her. So naturally She is worried and She doesn’t like people who try to take to mean things and nonsense.
First of all it was human beings started indulging in power. They moved from countries to countries to empower themselves. Where is that power gone?…finished. Then after that what happened with them is that they left their style with others. And now it seems, its very common to see people shamelessly being greedy. For them is the solution is Shiva. All such people will be destroyed first of all they will be exposed and then they will be destroyed. To the last bit of it. Another thing is that Shiva respects the person who has the good character. Person with a good character. And if anyone is bad charactered. Who will destroy that too is Shiva. Shiva is at your Sahastrara. He is sitting on the Sahastrara now remember. On top of everything. The other day I saw one gentleman from the broadcasting….newsman who was very very stupid and was talking very harshly. And I saw his Ekadasha coming up. “My God” I said this one is now going to be in trouble. What is Ekadasha is nothing but the eleven powers of Shiva. They build up here ( On forehead) and give you all kind of diseases and the worst of all is cancer, and I knew that this fellow is going to have a very bad time. He is not a Sahaj yogi…how am I to tell him? How anybody has to tell him? But it comes from this Ekadasha Rudra. Now ,these are eleven powers of Shiva. Very well described. Now, these powers start working on people even on Sahaj Yogis if they do not follow the principal of Sahaj Yoga.
He is I should say…watching everything. Every part of your life he watches. How you behave, what you do…what is your Dharma….he watches all that. And so many saints have warned. So many incarnations have warned you. But I tell you, if you dont listen to them then Shiva is not going to listen. He doesn’t listen to anyone. If he is angry….He is angry. Whatever it is, very difficult to convince him that please spare this person, its all right, forgive him. But his basic quality is forgiveness. Can you imagine? His basic quality is forgiveness but if he doesn’t forgive then you are finished. Upto a point may be he may forgive but after that…..its a very very difficult situation. And I find that people dont realise what Shiva is. In the south we have two kinds of worshipper people. One are Shaivites and another are Vaishnavites. They are having a big fight with eachother. Now it is less, much less. What is the work of Shri Vishnu is to give you realisation…. Emancipation of Human beings, evolution of human beings. But if you fail in your goodness , in your Dharma, then Shiva comes in your life. We have to understand. We are all surrounded by their powers. We are all made by their powers. It’s the Shakti who is protecting you. But to an extent. She cannot go above Shiva. She cannot cross…… These days you find so many people indulging into politics. It’s all money making propositions. They all try to make money. It’s never politics. They dont do anything good to the whole community. Nowhere. Either under fear or under abandonment. They behave in such a manner that they are not afraid of God. They are not afraid of his own attention on the people. Perhaps they dont know that they are in the attention of Shiva. He is watching each and every person. Whether you are Australian, English or an Indian. Whatever religion you may follow… He is watching them. This is a thing one has to understand and once you understand this, you will accept it that you have to be good and Dharmic. You have to be good charactered people. Why people talk of good character? You should try to understand. Its stupidity these days that people dont believe in it. People are doing all kind of things…They are drinking, they are playing this money business. All kind of things they are doing. Without having any fear of the wrath of God. And that wrath comes from Shiva.
I would like to warn you all though you are my children here. Try to weigh every step you take. Of course I am there to support you, to help you, to protect you but … not beyond Shiva. I can’t go beyond Him. Its such a power of Shiva. It’s such a authority of Shiva. And to worship him is to worship goodness in Him. The goodness could be compassion, could be Love, could be forgiveness… anything. He likes so many good people. And he protects only good people. For example some people are very power oriented. Some are money oriented and some are power oriented. And the power oriented also do it for money sometimes. That’s the aim. They will not stay in Sahaj. They will be displaced. They do it and come and ask for forgiveness. Please forgive us we have done it. But try not to do anything of that kind. I of course forgive you but Shiva…He wont.. He won’t. He will take you to task, and then you will come to me … Mother you just save us. I say it’s difficult. From his clutches its very difficult. Also he is a very forgiving person. He forgives you….. Many things. Because of me also he forgives. But after some times when he takes over…. There’s no appeal…..There’s no saving.
I do not want to frighten you but I want to tell you the truth. It is the truth. You have to try to be good people. You have to try to be really good-charactered people. I have told some people who are in Sahaj Yoga indulge in money laundering and all that. Also some of them have very bad characters. They run after girls and they try to look at girls and all sort of things. Now this has ruined the West specially. Also our Indians are learning from them. As it is we have to respect ourselves. If we dont respect ourselves and we try to misbehave ….. I can only help you with your Kundalini. But if you go too much beyond it… Ekadasha Rudra will catch you… No doubt. It’s a very big barrier on your forehead…. Ekadasha Rudra. And it is so effective nowadays…so much active. It is self destructive I must say but it is self which is destructive is the power of Shiva. What we call the self here is the power of Shiva. He destroys by many things. By many things. You can loose your reputation…. you can loose your health….you can loose your wealth. Everything can happen to you till you are completely finished in fact. I have known people on their deathbed also they are talking about money. What should she get money, how will he get money all that…Instead of talking about self realisation or God…they are talking like this. It’s such a normal thing. But if you see Shiva…He doesn’t possess anything. He doesn’t want anything. Whatever you give it to Him as a samarpan or anything, that He doesn’t accept. And he passes on to the Shakti….. You do what you want to. She is the one who is working out everything to benefit you, to make you happy. It’s the anti of Shiva. In the Quran ( Muslim scripture) its not written separately for Allah…or for Shiva or….its not differentiated. Because the people he had to deal were all uneducated stupid people. So he didn’t give all the details that God is in different forms. So there is only one Allah they know but they dont know anything that shows the differentiation of their jobs and work. It is the Shakti who loves, I agree. But she too can get angry very much and once She gets angry there is no end to it. Now I have to tell you as Sahaj Yogis that you develop your qualities to please Shiva. Its too much of hankering …. Too much of wants… All this is not necessary. Of course I want you to live well and beautifully. Not stupidly to go into jungles or behave like hippies. That’s not the point. The point is… from you heart the attachment to things must go away. A person who is a Shiva Bhakta he doesn’t care for money, he doesn’t know about money. He is a very generous person. Extremely….he is just generous. People will say he is stupid the way he goes on, the way he works… but I dont think so, thats not at all the description. The description of a Man who is a Bhakta of Shiva has no interest in money. Is very generous. Anything you ask from that… he will give. Mahavira was like that. Mahavira had gone for his meditation in his own garden and Vishnu as Shri Krishna came and told him that see I have no clothes. You have this clothe why dont you give me half of it? He said all right you can have… you can have the whole. Because he said it’s my house, I am here and I will wear my clothes. What he did was not to show that nudity is a very great thing. But if you see the Jains what they do…. They make big big statues of Mahavira showing him completely nude. I mean this is the perversion of Human mind. Why he did it we should know. He was so detached. So detached…..He gave away the clothes what is the harm? It was not to show off or anything but the generosity. People dont understand and the Jainies are the least generous. So the quality of these great incarnations is also not understood. Because a kind of illusion is there. For example… Shiva is always with very few clothes… very few and what does he eat? No one knows. What is his desire and what does he want? No one knows. A person with great knowledge of music will sing before him, is all right….or even if some madcap comes and sings…is all right. For him it doesn’t matter. He is not meticulous about how the music is or what the notes are whether it is all right or not….No.. He is beyond all these things. He is beyond all these formalities which we have about everything… He is beyond.
He is spirituality itself. He is beyond all these things. Whether you are a musician or you are an artist…whatever it is you are… he will enjoy. As he is the enjoyer. And he will enjoy. Whatever is simple.. Whatever is given with the heart he will enjoy. Whatever is expressed with the heart he will enjoy. He is not a conditioned person that it should be modern…it should be such and such. He is not conditioned. He doesn’t think that. Like human beings will sit down and make meticulous everything …does it fit into it or not… even …even for art…. even for anything that is created out of somebody’s heart. They will try to discourage that person. I have seen people they have such conditionings. And One thing about Shiva is that he has No conditionings of anything….nothing. Thats why they call him even “Mast Maula” ( Non bothered) he is not at all conditioned. If you have any conditioning in your mind then you are not Shiva bhakta. Its all right you should dress up well you should do this…. But you should not have conditioning that if you dont do that then you are being out of caste … out of fashion…. out of this… It is very difficult for the people not to accept. All kind of fashions are coming now. All kinds. I tell them what is this?…This is the fashion… is it some God behind this fashion or there is some deity who is telling you about these fashions. Today it comes tomorrow it disappears. So what I am saying is that if you have to worship Shiva you should de-condition yourself. You are living in the world of Sahastrara. Now somebody is not properly dressed…finished.. Somebody is over properly dressed…finished. The human beings have the capacity to criticise everyone. And to criticise everyone is nothing fundamental because if you do it on vibrations one can understand. But not on vibrations…just because this is not the fashion…that is not the fashion.
What is the fashion of Shiva? Tell me….. has he any fashions? Anything you give him he is happy. Whatever you give him he eats that. He is full of so much appreciation because he is personified as Joy !. He is peace and He is Joy ! If you are worshipper of Shri Shiva doesn’t have any conditionings of anything. I mean normally I wear simple saris very simple. And it happens that people think I am a very poor woman. I am poor because I dont care for money… I dont bother. So you should know that Shiva is the poorest man….Purest God.. He doesn’t wear any alankaras he doesn’t wear anything just he lives with his own body. Because he is nothing but just the embodiment of Enjoyment. Nothing but complete form of enjoyment.so another quality of Shiva bhakta should be Joy. You should be joyous with everything… whatever you see whatever type of person you see. So the only one way you can do is give up human quality of criticism. To criticise others.
Like if the English go to the Indian house…..He will say…I dont like it . I say what? What you dont like?….we didn’t like the carpet. “ I DONT LIKE IT” itself is against Shiva and Shakti. So supposing an American goes to an English home… he will say “ I dont like it” very common . All the people say ‘I dont like it’.. I didn’t like that… Who are you to say I dont like it or I like it? People dont realise that by saying this you are showing that they have no Shiva principle. I can understand if some person cannot walk all right for such a person its allowed to use some sticks or something…allowed. But if he says… I dont like such and such person because he doesn’t use stick. Shows that he is such an egoistical fellow. Himself he is using a stick and he wants to create a rapport or what that in democratic countries people should carry sticks . It is very difficult … In the West it is very common you see to have a this kind of Hat to have this kind of a dress. To wear this kind of a suit and all this to have these kind of conditionings. Now this hair style has become a kind of very funny with woman… because they dont put oil in their head. They will not have any grease in their head. If somebody is going to meet them they will wash their hair. I dont think it looks very nice. Of course I dont say that you need not have so much of oil on your face and on your head but…what is so important in life?
Its also another thing that we are very SELF CENTRED. We want to impress people. If I wear a dress or anything, it should impress. I mean even if it impresses…. What?…. If a snake comes along it will bite you whatever dress you might be wearing. Whatever country you might be from. All these kind of identification it doesn’t behold a Shiva bhakta. A SHIVA BHAKTA HAS TO BE JUST LOST INTO THE RAPTURES OF JOY!!. Very particular about hair style, very particular about dresses.I dont know what they are particular about. With all that what do they gain?… nothing. Do they become popular? And this kind of popularity which is so skin deep. What’s the use? You must have respect. Respect of your being. As not only human beings but as Sahaj Yogis. We are Sahaj Yogis. We are Shiva’s bhakta. We dont care. We are not bothered…. Whatever it is….Shiva is there within us. And we shine with that power within us. That is of Kundalini. You may be very well dressed, you may be anything. Your vibrations are bad….what’s the use? If you cannot judge people by vibrations…. But by nonsensical things like their dress and moustaches… is it of any value? In Sahaj Yoga, your value system has to be Sahaj.
I have seen many people ”Oh! I didn’t like their house…I didn’t like this….. “I DONT LIKE “ is the sentence ‘Nishiddha’ ( banned) to be given up by Sahaj Yogis. If you dont like anything you are not a Sahaj Yogi. Yes, of course if there is somebody who is anti Sahaj or like that. But still saying ‘I dont like that’ what are you going to gain? It’s the waste of energy. Because of this in sahaj Yoga I have seen people have created problems for me. So many problems. Only because they are so much self oriented. This man is bad…that woman is bad…that one is this……sometimes I am surprised because when those people come in front of me I am amazed that they are very nice people. But people are very self centered also. Like I have seen people who are not bothered to come to the meetings. To Pujas….because they have got work. All together there are eleven Pujas. But they dont come because they are very busy. At least to one Puja you should come. But those who are Shiva bhaktas only enjoy nothing but Pujas. Nothing else….their whole being… is absolutely vibrated with Shiva Puja. To them that’s the most important thing to do. Also there are people in Sahaj yoga who are trying to make money out of Sahaj Yoga. Very wrong…very wrong…very wrong. Sahaj Yoga is to give you puniyas . To give you blessings. And if that is not in your mind, better give up Sahaj Yoga. You can join some business or something of mal-practices…very easy…very easy. Till you end up in the jail you are there. But to enjoy your spiritual powers you must learn certain things and one of them is de-condition yourself. I DONT LIKE IT and I LIKE IT… this sentence must go away from your tongue. Likes and Dislikes are only for the people who have limited vision. You should learn to appreciate. Your power of appreciation will show how spiritually you are endowed . And your power of observation will show what do you observe. For example some people will come to me and say, “ I dont like that lady, she is wearing a very funny Sari” what is this? “ I didn’t like it because she was putting her hand over her head” so what?. Because you make your own images of people and things. And you want everybody to be like that otherwise you dont like it. Whether you like it or dont like it, nobody is going to change. But why waste your energy? Sometimes there are musicians who are not very good. I remember… once I went home and I asked my father… “ How does this musician sing?” He said, “ He is very courageous..very courageous” I said “why? What’s happened?” he said, “ he sings without bothering about people and he goes out of tune sometimes he goes out of Tala (rhythm)…doesn’t matter.. but he sings.. he is very courageous” So…. Thats how he used to appreciate.. When this fellow started singing, I saw he was like that but my father was saying wah wah !! wah wah!! to him and encouraging him. See I have seen in my Father these divine qualities. How he used to tolerate…how he used to….I mean not even tolerance also. Judging on your dress or on your hair style…No… All modern things are extremely conditioned. And they condition you so much that you get irresponsible. As Sahaj yogis you get irresponsible. Your first and foremost responsibility is Sahaj Yoga because you should know what a work it is. It is such a great work to transform the whole world. Thats my vision. At this old age also I think the same. Now if that is my Vision…what should be your attitude? To go all out to spread Sahaj Yoga. That’s the main thing. I call you for these Pujas just to renovate I should say or to give you more of energy and all that. But if you are taking it as great blessings and sitting at home it’s of no use. You must spread Sahaj Yoga.
I was surprised that they said in Lucknow there are only two hundred Sahaj Yogis. How can that be? First time I went to Lucknow there were at least 3000 Sahaj Yogis and we had not fixed any hall or anything. And can you imagine suddenly I find its all….how is it there can be 200 Sahaj Yogis? Either you are telling lies or you are good for nothing. So the responsibility of all the Sahaj Yogis. If Hippiesm can spread why not sahaj yoga? It spread like wild fire, why not sahaj Yoga? All these things are there. I have to warn you… be careful. If you have got realisation you have got responsibility. To give realisations to others and to spread Sahaj Yoga. If you cant do it then God save you. I have nothing to say., you have to introspect. And I am sure after this Shiva Puja you will dedicate yourself to Shiva principle within you. Shiva principle doesn’t stir out. It’s very very stern. It’s very powerful. You have to dedicate it and you have to surrender it. Above every other job above every other performance..Highest is this. So with this I ask Shiva to give you blessings. Complete blessings so that you get transformed. Into personality of Shiva.
May God Bless You!
H H Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi